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@JohnPhilpin Once upon a time, I worked at a Border's Book Store that had the attached coffee shop. I spent a lot of time making iced drinks for the kids where the shot of espresso was largely incidental. I'm at least partially shocked you had that experince, though, as the latté is the basis for most of the drinks that are flavored with sugar syrop and topped with whipped cream.

@patrickrhone Thank you for sharing that article. It puts into words many things I have been ruminating over for a long time.

@patrickrhone You are right. She wrote about such a real thing. Thank you for sharing it, even if it is a damned thread.